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同主题阅读:F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
[版面:签证] [首篇作者:GTFAJob] , 2009年05月19日09:15:03
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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申请返签么?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 09:15:03 2009)

我10月份毕业。现在的F-1 visa还没有过期,想这个暑假,毕业前去欧洲玩。可是
H-1的申请已经被approved了,10月份生效。这种情况如果出境的话,需要重新申请新
的签证才能回来么?

在H-1 approval notice上写着:“A person granted a change of status who
leaves the U.S must normally obtain a visa in the new classification before
returning”。这意思似乎是说我需要重新申请签证吧。。。

大家帮我看看,我理解得对么?
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发信人: nkitc (游子), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 09:27:36 2009)

你的H1B是change of status那种,所以10.1之前你不能离开美国。离开美国的话,就
必须以H1B的身份进入,H1B是在10.1生效,最早申请的日期是9月底。也就是说,你离
开美国的话,只能9月底才能回来了。你的有效F1 visa不能再用了。这些是我公司的律
师和我讲的,我在网上看过一些相关内容,也确实是这样。
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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 11:19:12 2009)

谢谢了!

请问一下你是在哪里看到的相关内容?我也去扫盲一下 :-D

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发信人: atomism (yoyo), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 13:55:14 2009)

同求!我现在的F-2签证未过期,今年的H-1申请还没消息,也是申请了CHANGE OF STATUS,
我这种情况是不是一回国就必须到九月底才能回来了(如果H1 approve 了)?
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发信人: farmlane (GLAmao), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 14:31:42 2009)

Travel after Change-of-Status Approval with Future Start Date
Posted May 06, 2005
©MurthyDotCom
The USCIS has clarified the issue regarding the continued validity of a
previously filed and approved change-of-status petition with a future start
date, when a person travels abroad after such approval but seeks to enter on
a prior status.
©MurthyDotCom
This clarification is useful as many employers have, since April 1, 2005,
filed H1B petitions reflecting future start dates under the FY2006 H1B quota
; effective from October 1, 2005 in many instances. Although most lawyers
advise their clients against international travel after filing petitions
with changes of status, recent clarification from the USCIS may help
individuals to travel more freely than before, without jeopardizing the
previously-approved petition and change of status effective with a future
start date.
©MurthyDotCom
How Does the Last-Action Rule Apply During International Travel?
©MurthyDotCom
The basic question posed was, "What happens if the USCIS has approved a
person's status and petition with a future start date and, thereafter, the
person travels outside of the United States, reentering in the present (
unchanged) status prior to the future start date?" We know that, for a
person who has obtained, for example, an H1B petition approval with a change
of status and who remains in the U.S. until the H1B start date, that person
's status would change as of the date listed on the H1B approval notice. So,
the question is whether the intervening international travel changes the
equation under the "last-action rule" where the last action of the USCIS
governs one's status.
©MurthyDotCom
The USCIS responded that the travel does not change the equation. The USCIS,
through Efren Hernandez, Chief, Business and Trade Services Branch,
reasoned that the last action would not be the travel and reentry in the
prior status, but the previously-approved petition and change of status with
a future start date. The travel does not invalidate the previously-approved
USCIS change of status effective from a future date. This is because the
last action regarding the person's status governs.
©MurthyDotCom
Example - Filing a COS from F-1 to H1B with Future Start Date
©MurthyDotCom
The question posed to the USCIS assumes that a person is in F-1 status and
an employer is filing for a change of status to H1B with a start date six
months after the time of filing. So, on April 1, 2005, the employer files
for an H1B with an October 1, 2005 start date. Premium processing is used,
so the case is approved on May 1, 2005, with a change of status from F-1 to
H1B. The I-94 reflecting the change of status is attached to the approval
notice. The person's F-1 (presumably Optional Practical Training) is valid,
so s/he decides to travel outside the U.S. after May 1, 2005, returning to
the U.S. on the F-1 on September 1, 2005, one month prior to the H1B start
date of October 1, 2005.
©MurthyDotCom
So, the question posed is whether, after the international travel, the
previously-approved change of status from F-1 to H1B, with an effective date
from October 1, 2005, is still valid, or is the last action of the USCIS
considered to be the F-1 stamp made on I-94 card at the U.S. port of entry
on September 1, 2005.
©MurthyDotCom
USCIS Reasoning of "Later in Time" Governs
©MurthyDotCom
The USCIS stated that the change of status would automatically take effect
on the effective date of the H1B petition / change-of-status Notice of
Action of October 1, 2005, in this example. The intervening admission to the
U.S. does not override this later effective date. The "last action" rule
does not change this fact because the last action that has been taken is the
effective date of the H1B petition and change of status approval. Although
the I-94 card reflecting the H1B change predates the latest I-94 card given
at the Port of Entry, the change of status to H1B does not become effective
until October 1, 2005, after the person's entry into the United States.
©MurthyDotCom
USCIS Letter Guidance Helpful but Not Legally Binding
©MurthyDotCom
This analysis was provided by the USCIS in the form of letter guidance. Such
guidance does not carry the binding force of law or regulation and
generally is given less weight than even a USCIS policy memo. In the absence
of any other USCIS guidance, however, it is a useful resource that is
available and the only option for a person who needs to travel abroad under
such circumstances. We also find that the USCIS and Legacy INS have given
considerable weight to such guidance letters and enforced them. Many complex
issues of U.S. immigration law have only such letters as this on which
people can rely on in the absence of law or regulations.
©MurthyDotCom
Distinguish from Travel While Change of Status Pending
©MurthyDotCom
This guidance should not be confused with the rule that a person who travels
abroad and attempts to reenter the United States while a change of status
is pending abandons the request for the change of status. In the question
posed, the petition and the change of status had been approved before the
person departed the U.S. While the example used was a change from F-1 to H1B
, there are other scenarios in which the same logic presumably could apply.
©MurthyDotCom
Conclusion
©MurthyDotCom
This Hernandez letter is another helpful clarification on an issue that was
previously not entirely clear. The conclusion is logical and it avoids the
need for employers or individuals to make additional, extraneous filings or
the need to travel abroad again to get back into legal status.
【 在 GTFAJob (如果的是) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我10月份毕业。现在的F-1 visa还没有过期,想这个暑假,毕业前去欧洲玩。可是
: H-1的申请已经被approved了,10月份生效。这种情况如果出境的话,需要重新申请新
: 的签证才能回来么?
: 在H-1 approval notice上写着:“A person granted a change of status who
: leaves the U.S must normally obtain a visa in the new classification
before
: returning”。这意思似乎是说我需要重新申请签证吧。。。
: 大家帮我看看,我理解得对么?



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发信人: huntrui (黄昏), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 17:25:40 2009)

怪了,我们公司得律师怎么说可以得呀。难道她不懂?
知道的说一下。

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发信人: huntrui (黄昏), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 18:09:15 2009)

怪了,我们公司得律师怎么说可以得呀。难道她不懂?
知道的说一下。

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发信人: tzh514 (hi), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 19:20:56 2009)


【 在 huntrui (黄昏) 的大作中提到: 】
: 怪了,我们公司得律师怎么说可以得呀。难道她不懂?
: 知道的说一下。


很多律师是这样的,不确定的就挑保守的跟你讲把你打发了。
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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 22:55:42 2009)

谢谢!!! 那也就是说:

首先,我还是可以用我的未过期的F-1 visa入境的。边境的移民官不会因为我有H-1b
approval 就把我撵回国重新申请签证。

其次,我用F-1签证重新入境之后,我的H-1b approval依然是有效的。

那么travel就没有什么问题啦。。。不过这是2005年的post,最近不会有啥变化吧。

大家都在哪找到的这些info?我在uscis的网上咋啥也找不到呢?

【 在 farmlane (GLAmao) 的大作中提到: 】
: Travel after Change-of-Status Approval with Future Start Date
: Posted May 06, 2005
: ©MurthyDotCom
: The USCIS has clarified the issue regarding the continued validity of a
: previously filed and approved change-of-status petition with a future
start
: date, when a person travels abroad after such approval but seeks to enter
on
: a prior status.
: ©MurthyDotCom
: This clarification is useful as many employers have, since April 1, 2005,
: filed H1B petitions reflecting future start dates under the FY2006 H1B
quota
: ...................



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发信人: huntrui (黄昏), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 23:31:29 2009)

我现在被这个搞晕了,有的人说行,有的人说不行。有过经历得人帮忙说一下。
多谢。

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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 19 23:45:15 2009)

嗯,我也很晕~~~~

拜请有经验的人说说吧~~~应该还是蛮多人关心这个问题的

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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 00:11:36 2009)

嗯,我也很晕~~~~

拜请有经验的人说说吧~~~应该还是蛮多人关心这个问题的

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发信人: CoolMoon (CoolMoon), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 00:42:56 2009), 转信

F1还没过期有什么好说的,F1回来呗
十月一号前你都是F1
如果是OPT的话带上offer letter就行了

【 在 GTFAJob (如果的是) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢!!! 那也就是说:
: 首先,我还是可以用我的未过期的F-1 visa入境的。边境的移民官不会因为我有H-1b
: approval 就把我撵回国重新申请签证。
: 其次,我用F-1签证重新入境之后,我的H-1b approval依然是有效的。
: 那么travel就没有什么问题啦。。。不过这是2005年的post,最近不会有啥变化吧。
: 大家都在哪找到的这些info?我在uscis的网上咋啥也找不到呢?
: start
: on
: quota



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发信人: farmlane (GLAmao), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 00:50:50 2009)

但如果f-1没过期但f-1 visa过期了,需要去面签revew f1-visa with opt,会怎么样呢
。我决定闯了,一周后给消息。


【 在 CoolMoon (CoolMoon) 的大作中提到: 】
: F1还没过期有什么好说的,F1回来呗
: 十月一号前你都是F1
: 如果是OPT的话带上offer letter就行了



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发信人: huntrui (黄昏), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 13:40:48 2009)

我倒是OPT期间renew过F1 visa, 在上海,当时只要了成绩单,就给了签证。
回来了给消息。祝一切顺利。


【 在 farmlane (GLAmao) 的大作中提到: 】
: 但如果f-1没过期但f-1 visa过期了,需要去面签revew f1-visa with opt,会怎么样呢
: 。我决定闯了,一周后给消息。
:



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发信人: GTFAJob (如果的是), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 20:11:44 2009)

呵呵,你的情况似乎比我的复杂一点。
祝好运啊!

【 在 farmlane (GLAmao) 的大作中提到: 】
: 但如果f-1没过期但f-1 visa过期了,需要去面签revew f1-visa with opt,会怎么样呢
: 。我决定闯了,一周后给消息。
:



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发信人: laneliu (bearcookie), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 20:26:00 2009)

说起来OPT还是F1身份,不过你用F1入境,I-94的目的也是F1,是不是就是放弃H1的申
请呢,毕竟10月1号才生效。
我律师这么说的,反正不行,有风险,所以去年OPT的时候没敢回国开会。
但是我当时F1签证刚过期了,情况还是不一样。


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发信人: huntrui (黄昏), 信区: Visa
标 题: Re: F-1签证未过期,今年的H-1申请approved了,若出境,需要重新申
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我的律师又说可以,现在谁也搞不清了。有经历的人才知道。

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